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    June 11

    Hotmail now brings you additional speed and makes it easier to pull in mail from other accounts (paid users only)

    I’ve seen a lot of comments on the blog about people who are having a problem with their Hotmail account. Here’s what to do:

    First, try the email support blog. Still having trouble? Submit your problem directly to the support team.

                                                                                                          

    Thanks to all of our users out there for your patience – we’ve spent a number of months making Hotmail faster and more stable. Our latest release we hope will make your experience more snappy – when it comes to web e-mail, if it’s not fast, doesn’t matter how many great features are in it.

     

    These features will be rolling out slowly over the next few weeks, but here’s an early sneak peek at what’s coming.

     

    Speeding up the classic version

     

    The classic version is getting seriously snazzed up – we hear you loud and clear that you like the fast performance of the classic version, but love how the full version allows you to move between messages without reloading the web page. We’re taking a big step in this release towards putting your favorite full version features into the classic version.

     

    Here in the Hotmail office, we’re huge fans of the classic version because everything just works quickly with no wait!


    You can check out how snappy the classic version is when you try the following things:

    • Read messages in your inbox
    • Delete and move messages
    • Read messages in different folders
    • Check for new messages by clicking on your inbox or other folder

     

    The classic version works the same, and looks the same, but now it is more like the full version, updating what you see on the screen without reloading the whole page.

     

    In future releases, you’ll see more about how we’re making the classic version faster and also adding features to it.

     

    The classic version works for a huge range of browsers: Internet Explorer 6+, Firefox 2.0+, Safari 2.0+, and other modern browsers.

     

    Pulling in messages from other accounts

     

    If you’re a paid user, we’re making it easier for you to add a non-Hotmail account! Paid users will see a link in their inbox that says “Add an e-mail account.” If you click that link, we make it easy to pull in messages from your other accounts outside of Hotmail. You can add a POP3 account this way. This feature has been in MSN Hotmail and Windows Live Hotmail for years, but now we’re able to automatically set up many POP3 accounts even if you don’t know your POP server settings.

     

    And as always, the release also contains bug fixes and performance optimizations. Thanks for being a Hotmail customer!

                                                                                                                                                                                      

    - Ellie Powers, program manager, Windows Live Hotmail

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    Picture of Anonymous
    TOgul1 wrote:
    So it's been over a week and still messed up. It still won't let me open emails in new windows, it still occasionally pops up that annoying "you should upgrade your browser" message, and it still does that thing where it keeps recursively loading things so that instead of staying at only one entry in my surfing history it ends up being dozens if left alone for too long. What's the ETA on getting Hotmail back to how it was when it used to work?
    20 July
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    asma wrote:
    hi,
    Fot the last one week i have spen6t many hrs on the net in order to fix the right tab thing but then i realized that hotmail classic has been changed.
    The changes are not functional for IE7 either.
    The right click, tabs, and new windows are disabled.It is very frustating for me because I have always prefered the hotmail over gmail thing (I hate to click inbox after reading one mail..). I am so used to tab browsing that it leaves a bad taste in mouth when i open hotmail now:(
    8 July
    No namewrote:
     
    My hotmail account has been closed ( last Wednesday) I have sent messages to the support team, but have not had anything back. It said that I had violated the terms and conditions. If I knew what part of the terms and conditions I had violated I would know what I had done wrong. I have had the account for almost a year and have never had any trouble what's so ever, until I opened another account to use for something else. All very legite just used for a junior football club, this new account would not let me send any messages, so I went to the support team they gave me some instructions to follow. Delete cookies etc and thats when my trouble began. I signed into my Other hotmail address only to find out that it had been closed. Does anyone know what I can do and if the account will stay closed can I retreive my email? All my voluantry work is on that account. Please help. also if you could do it in a way that I could understand as I am not the most techinicall of people. Thanks Lorraine
    8 July
    WL Hotmailwrote:
    Hi everyone,
     
    Thanks for the comments.
     
    We're aware of the FF issue and it will be fixed in the next week or two.
    8 July
    Kevinwrote:
    I am thrilled that other people are having the same javascript problems as me.  It is so much easier to right click and view a new tab.  What if I want to compare messages?  Copy some text from an old message?  Copy an email address from a message that I have stored?   Instead of working in two tabs... I now have to work in the same tab and click back and forth.   Copying and pasting is actually more difficult too.   I also can't leave my inbox open and unused for more than an hour - otherwise I'll be signed out automatically.

    Someone posted below that one option is to open multiple inboxes.  That does work - the 'New' message can still be right clicked.  Probably an oversight by the developer.  Why so many backward changes?  Hotmail is doing everything they can to a) be more like their competitors and b) chase people away.   If I wanted javascript and 'conversations' - I'd get a Gmail account.    I prefer Hotmail Classic.  But once again I'm being chased away..
    7 July
    No namewrote:

    ust to add one positive not here (and I'm as big a critic as any, but try to stay balanced...), it is definitely a LOT faster.  I've actually done a few tests to compare to my gmail (in IE7 and FF3), and I would say in some instances it's actually faster than gmail.  Keep in mind I have a very fast internet connection, so the actual loading of the messages takes practically no time (important since gmail "preloads" your emails when you get to their inbox).
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    7 July
    Picture of Anonymous
    TOgul1 wrote:
    I've figured a minor work-around to sort of make Hotmail almost as function as it was before last week. You can't open emails in thier own window, but you can open your inbox in a seperate window, so if you only have a handful of emails you want to open at once, you can open the inbox several times in new windows, and open a different email from each. Kinda clumsy, certainly not as good as it was before they messed around with what worked, but at least it's something. I really hope they get around to reverting this mess ASAP.
    7 July
    Gretawrote:
    I spent hours troubleshooting thinking something was wrong with my browser or mouse.
    Surely for such a change, a notice could have been on the Today page.
    I always select multiple messages, while reading one the others download.
    Yes, with only one message, you have to return to folder or Inbox after each one.
    There is no benefit of a storage folder now since you could never read them.
    I have used Hotmail since Microsoft purchased it and I want a functional web-based mail.
    I will agree this does not meet that criteria.
    I have never had a problem with any technical aspect or any slowness and I am on dial-up.
    6 July
    Picture of Anonymous
    TOgul1 wrote:
    Yeah, Yahoo Classic is one of the other ones I use, and it works great. The only annoyance I have is that when you try to view and image attachment it insists on downloading it rather than opening it directly, but that's peanuts compared to the mauling Microsoft's given to my once beloved Hotmail lately. I really hope that they do fix Hotmail back to how it was, rather than letting it continue its deathspiral into a self-absorbed infinitely incompatable mess.
    5 July
    Picture of Anonymous
    towjnt wrote:
    to add to that... is there ANY email service any more that keeps it truly simple?  besides maybe fastmail or yahoo classic?
    5 July
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    towjnt wrote:
    Blueaura - I'm not sure what you're referring to.  I see what you mean about the right click and tab stuff.  However, is there any email service that you don't have to go back to the inbox to select a different message?  My next and previous message arrows work, other than that, I don't know of another way of selecting an email to view besides through the inbox.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, though. 

    Just to add one positive not here (and I'm as big a critic as any, but try to stay balanced...), it is definitely a LOT faster.  I've actually done a few tests to compare to my gmail (in IE7 and FF3), and I would say in some instances it's actually faster than gmail.  Keep in mind I have a very fast internet connection, so the actual loading of the messages takes practically no time (important since gmail "preloads" your emails when you get to their inbox). 

    I guess that extra speed sacrifices the "basic" functionality we had with good ol' hotmail, however, since there is a lot more java now. 
    5 July
    No namewrote:
    The changes are not functional for IE7 either.
    The right click, tabs, and new windows are disabled.
    When you read a message it is slower because you must return to Inbox
    or Folder to select  the next message you want to read.
    I have awaited patiently since the release of Live to restore some of the
    usability and options of MSNHotmail  but surely this is still regressive.
    5 July
    Picture of Anonymous
    Angry Mob wrote:
    Your kidding, right?  You want us to move more mail to Hotmail when the biggest complaint from users is how hard it is to get mail out if they ever decide to move to another service?  Now, that is funny.
    4 July
    Picture of Anonymous
    TOgul1 wrote:
    I'v been using Hotmail for years now, and it's the worst it's ever been. For the past couple days now, I've been unable to open my emails in their own separate windows (like I was able to as of last week), and now it does this fidgetty thing where it'll keep opening pages that I can't go back to, like right now if I open up my "back" drop down it shows 8 "Windows Live Hotmail" pages, and if I click on any of them it goes nowhere and keeps showing that I'm on the 8th of 8 such pages. It's very screwy. "Back" and "forward" only occasionally work right at all.

    Also, it keeps constantly telling me that I should upgrade my browser. This I will not do, I LIKE my browser, and Hotmail should continue to work fine on my browser as it has done for the past ten years or so. I'd drop Hotmail as my primary email and move to Yahoo or Google (which work just fine on my browser, thank you very much) before I'd ever consider "upgrading" my browser. I don't mind if they continue to "improve" Hotmail, but "classic" should continue to be "classic", and continue to work at LEAST as well as it has worked for the past ten years.
    4 July
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    anonymous wrote:
    WHY did Hotmail make its recent UI changes to the classic interface?  It used to work just fine with Firefox 1.5, and now when viewing a message, the delete and junk buttons are broken (you get an error dialog saying you need to check the box next to the message in the index, even though you're viewing a message, not the index), and the next and previous message (up and down arrow) buttons are missing.

    Also, the links in the message index to view messages are now @%^#$%!!!! Javascript, instead of regular HREF http links like they used to be.  This means it's no longer possible to open messages in new browser tabs.  And to make things worse, you can't use your browser's Back button to get back to the index, since it takes you back to the welcome page (remember when Hotmail let you skip the welcome page?).  You can click the Inbox link, but then it has to reload the index page, and it *always* takes you back to page 1 even if you were previously at a different page.  WHY WHY WHY?

    The whole point of retaining the Classic interface was to allow things to work the old way, i.e. each message is an HTML page, instead of screwing around with Javascript which often doesn't work.

    What possible purpose do these change serve, besides introducing even more browser incompatibilities?

    Do you remember when the web was supposed to be browser-independent?
    1 July
    Ed Koppwrote:
    Any word yet on Firefox 3 compatibility? I generally use Windows Live Mail to access my Hotmail account, but I'd still like the option to use the full version of Hotmail in Firefox 3 should I need to. I understand that Mozilla implemented some changes in Firefox 3 compared to 2, but I can't imagine that they were so major as to completely break the full version of Hotmail. I hope that an update will be pushed out soon to make the full version compatible, but until then, could we get a status update? Thanks.
    28 June
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    calasta wrote:
    please get rid of the adverts at the bottom of my messages! how can i send professional emails with that in every message? it's ok for you with your free premium webmail thanks to your employee privilege status, but we have to use it, why should i use hotmail for important emails? give me one reason?

    i don't like having too many email addresses, i only want one.

    no i can't use windows live mail because you don't allow people on xp 64 to download it.

    no i can't use office connector because i'm not shelling out $300 to buy office

    no i'm not going to pay for premium hotmail because it's a rip off.

    i guess i will have to completely move email addresses after all just so i don't get adverts in my messages, a service that gmail and yahoo do for absolutely nothing. come on hotmail get a grip.
    27 June
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    Nico wrote:
    Also I would like to be able to view source in classic mode. And mark as read.

    Also I would like it to remember that I have chosen not to display the Today page when I log in.
    27 June
    Picture of Anonymous
    Rob L wrote:
    rosiesbrat

    I suggest you look for a new email address NOW!!

    Why?

    Hotmail were due to pull the plug on Outlook Express support on June 30th (although you can download the WLive Mail), but have extended the deadline till when, I don't know, probably after a storm of protests.

    AOL, GMail, GMX, Lavabit all support POP and/or IMAP, which all work in Outlook Express, to mention a few.

    GMail is by far the most superior of all webmails, and it works in FF3!
    26 June
    Picture of Anonymous
    Dave wrote:
    the complete disappointment that hotmail has become makes me wonder if the hotmail team actually uses their own product. if they did then surely they would see how far behind it is.
    26 June

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