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    September 21

    Hotmail now offers POP Access for Hotmail Plus users

    I got my first real email account my freshman year in college (I had an AOL account before that, which technically was an email account, but only later). Back then the unix email program PINE was state of the art and was the de-facto mail client at most universities. Growing up a Mac user I had never seen a command prompt in my life, but nevertheless, I learned how to use enough of the unix command shell to get my email via the text based reader PINE.

    During my freshman year (1994) the only way to read email was to go to the computer lab. I had a laptop, but it wasn't able to get my email cause there were no Wifi or Ethernet networks to use, and my school didn't have dial-up accounts (matter of fact, my school used Token Ring networking). However, email was cool enough that I went to the lab all the time and did what anyone does with email when they first use it…. Send around jokes.

    Fast forward a year and I discovered the magic of POP. POP stands for Post Office Protocol and it's a way for an email client to connect to an email server and download your email to your laptop or desktop computer. The first time I used an email client (Claris Emailer) to connect to my university email account using POP I felt liberated. No more unix command line or tiny screen to read emails. I could have a rich experience composing, replying, copying, pasting and dragging messages to folders. How cool! Having been a Mac user it just seemed natural to use a GUI to manage my email.

    Since then my appetite has grown beyond POP. I have lots of folders and use lots of computers to access my email, and frankly, I've been spoiled by my Microsoft Exchange account for years. However, we have realized that even though we provide rich synchronization of your email and folders with Outlook (via Outlook Connector) and Windows Live Mail lots of people still want and demand POP.

    Well, it's been a dirty little secret that Hotmail has always maintained a POP service for a small segment of customers. It's always been very limited, and we didn't want to encourage or offer it to more customers because we've always had ambitions for providing for a scalable and cost effective protocol (which POP is not in the world of huge inboxes). Well we now have this protocol, it's called DeltaSync, and it's something that Outlook and Windows Live Mail use. What we didn't want to do is offer POP access and then have Outlook and Windows Live Mail customers use POP over DeltaSync. Now that we have free offline mail access we have focused our energies on offering users who use clients like Eudora, Thunderbird, and Apple Mail the ability to get their Hotmail in those clients. Additionally, most all mobile devices today support POP (including the Apple iPhone) and to date we haven't been able to offer folks with a data plan a rich way to get their email unless they are using Windows Mobile (and even that is limited depending on carrier).

    The story of POP continues like this… A few months ago some folks on the team hatched a plan to finally offer POP and starting this week Hotmail Plus users ($19.95 a year) will be able to use POP access from any device. In the interest of transparency though I want to be clear that we have plans to offer POP to all users (all premium and free) but we aren't ready to do that yet. I can't comment on a timeframe for when free users will get POP, but we hope to do so within the next 12 months.

    If you do take advantage of this premium feature and sign up for Hotmail plus you'll also get an ad-free experience, more storage, larger attachment support, and a non expiring account.

    Our POP service requires that you use Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) with the POP and SMTP connection and use SMTP authentication. This is to ensure that your email address and password are not subject to tampering. The settings are the following:

    • POP: pop3.live.com (port 995)
    • SMTP: smtp.live.com (port 25)
      • Note: make sure you check the box that indicates that your outgoing server requires authentication (in most mail clients this is not checked by default).
    • Username: your full email address
    • Password: your Windows Live ID password

    Well I hope this news is welcome, and thanks for being patient!

    -Omar Shahine (Lead Program Manager, Hotmail)

    PS - please note that I said Hotmail Plus users and not MSN Premium users. We are working to offer everyone POP access eventually, but for now, Hotmail Plus users are the only ones that can do so.

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    Any idea why Hotmail won't work on a Motorola Q9c mobile 6 phone? I've tried everything and have had to resort to having my hotmail forwarded to a Gmail IMAP account on my phone. Works great but how stupid it that that Hotmail won't work with Windows Mobile 6 on a Smartphone!!!???  Very frustrated and I guess I'll have to either switch over to Gmail permanently or use a Blackberry Curve phone since that works with Hotmail! Common Microsoft if you want us to use Hotmail make it work on a mobile phone.
    July 19
    Raviwrote:
    I was setup to receive hotmail to my iphone till recently without problems. after the new upgrade to 3G it stopped working. I set hotmail through the POP3 live and it worked for a few days thn stopped receving or sending new emails in the iphone. What happened?
    July 19
    Peterwrote:
    I have tried this in Thunderbird and it does seem to connect to hotmail but then rejects the password to my email account.
    Any ideas on how to overcome this problem?
     
    July 19
    No namewrote:
    So, I have set up my iPod Touch with these parameters, and it whirs and spins and NOTHING happens --- no errors, no nothing.
    What do I have to do to get access to POP3/SMTP services?
    July 17
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    TOgul1 wrote:
    I really need to get this opened up to non-paying customers soon, because I can't stand the new Hotmail interface. Since yesterday it's been a complete nightmare, with pages that keep reloading themselves recursively, a newfound inability to open emails in their own window, and all around buggyness. I really need the ability to forward all my Hotmail messages to by Yahoo or GMail accounts where I can actually read them in peace, ASAP.
    July 3
    No namewrote:
    Windows live mail is now the standard program for hotmail. Unfortunately, you pay the normal price of Microshaft holding your hand to protect you from those horrible people who send nasty things in your mail.
     
    Attachment links are missing so you can't save an attachment unless you log in to hotmail. Some links are disabled if M$ thinks it might be a phishing attempt so you can't go to any of your friends sites if they send you links. Typically, no documentation exists to tell you how to disable these features so, you have to start searching for settings. Half the time, these settings are not in live mail at all, but part of the OS itself.
     
    OMG please save me from this M$ hand holding. I am a computer programmer and engineer, I have been on the internet for as many years as the internet has existed in the UK so I am quite aware of the scams and tricks sent in emails. I don't need microshit to hold my hand, I'm a big boy now. This practice has to stop, macroshite windoze is fast becoming a program that dictates what you can and can't do or see on your own PC.
    June 30
    Lori Awrote:
    This post is quite old (Sept 21, 2007) and there has been no update as to when POP will be available for all Hotmail accounts. Please let us know. Thank you.

    Rgds,

    loriawi AT live DOT com
    June 22
    thank you!
     
    May 10
    Hello! I've been trying to set up my Pocket PC HP iPAQ 6515 to send and receive Hotmail but I can only receive: when I try to send an email, I'm getting an error message saying my settings are not correct or I am not connected. What am I doing wrong? I'm a Hotmail Plus subscriber and my account is @hotmail.com: are my pop and smtp ending .live.com? And where do I set the ports in my iPAQ? Thanks. Regards, Steffo
    Apr. 28
    Richard Dunnwrote:
    Hmmm... tried Shahine's instructions.... Host is contacted, login sent... but Thunderbird displays an 'Alert' that "pop3.live.com responded: mailbox .... is not available."
     
    And SMTP fails for me too.
     
    All my other methods of access to my Hotmail account work... WinLiveMail, web, MailWasherPro, etc.
     
    Is this (still?) ready for prime time???  or on 'hiatus'??
     
     
    Apr. 22
    Laxmanwrote:
    I could not access hotmail plus from yahoo mail plus. Any idea?
     
    Thanks in advance.
     
    Laxman
    Apr. 22
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    Kevin wrote:
    "...we have plans to offer POP to all users (all premium and free) but we aren't ready to do that yet. I can't comment on a timeframe for when free users will get POP, but we hope to do so within the next 12 months" (Original post September 21, 2007)
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    My Response:  Now seven months since this announcement; five more months will comprise 12 months.  Any idea when Microsoft plans on coming through on their promise to offer free POP to all users (free and premium)?
     
     
    Apr. 22
    PAwrote:
    "As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express..."
     
    So much for free POP3 access for OE users.
    Apr. 19
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    (no name) wrote:
    Well, it's 6 months now.  What's the status on this for free users?
    Mar. 27
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    Jason wrote:
    How can I set to download the most recent emails to my mobile phone?
     I have 4k+ emails in my hotmail account and every time when I try to download the oldest mails come but I dont want to get those old mails, instead, I want the latest mails. How can I do it?
    Mar. 25
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    Ed M. wrote:
    In Outlook 2007, you must also go to the Advanced tab and select the checkbox "This server requires an encrypted connection" for Incoming Server and select "Auto" (SSL/TLS) as the "Use the following type of encrypted connection" for the Outgoing Server.
     
    Now, all my hotmail comes to my standard inbox and I can run Rules & Alerts, set Follow-Up flags and all the other stuff I could never do to anything in my Hotmail Inbox while connecting as an HTTP e-mail account!!!
    Mar. 13
    paul hollandwrote:
    I've just copied the instructions and all works fine with my newly upgraded Hotmail plus account on my new 16gb iphone but i too have found that the emails start with my oldest emails from 2004. How can i sort this out?
    Mar. 3
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    Nico Ahn wrote:
    If your considering to start paying 20$ for your email with hotmail. you can get 5 personalized email addresses (+400 aliases) for as low as 99ct. US per month. yourname@yourdomain.com!! these accounts are compatible with ipod touch and iphone and just as convenient as a hotmail account. Look at 1&1 Online Services USA!!
    Mar. 1
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    Mark wrote:
    By following the initial post directions, my iTouch loads the hotmail emails from the by ascending date to the most recent (rather than the most recent to the latest).  In other words, if I have 200 emails in my Inbox from 2007, the 2008 email will never get loaded.
     
    Any suggestions on how to fix this? other than cleaning out my hotmail Inbox
    Feb. 23
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    (no name) wrote:
    Hi If you are having issues sending email with these settings try changing the SMTP port number to 587. If that will not work you need to find out if your ISP is doing what they call port blocking. Port Blocking is used to stop SPAM mail from being sent. You might need to change your out going SMTP server to that of your ISP. This is standard practice for all mail setup not just hotmail.

    I also have an iPhone. It works most of the time with POP, but sometimes the hotmail SMTP will take a dump and stop working. Remember this is basically beta so if it's not working ... Tough &*^$!
    Feb. 18